From tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org Sun Jun 1 04:23:51 2008 From: tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org (tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:51 +0100 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb Message-ID: <1212283431.4841fa274972f@webapp.securecp.net> hello, I am having problems trying to change my system locale to use en-gb rather than en-us. I need to do so in order to have abiword use en-gb as its spell checking. How do I go about switching my system locale / aspell to en-gb from en-us? Thanks -- Michael Austin From erenoglu at gmail.com Sun Jun 1 04:45:52 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 03:45:52 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <1212283431.4841fa274972f@webapp.securecp.net> References: <1212283431.4841fa274972f@webapp.securecp.net> Message-ID: Hi Michael, Is Great Britain (gb) layout available in the TASMA Keyboard Layout settings control tool? If so, you can choose it and add to the list of layouts. Emre On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:23 AM, wrote: > > > hello, > > I am having problems trying to change my system locale to use en-gb rather > than > en-us. I need to do so in order to have abiword use en-gb as its spell > checking. > > How do I go about switching my system locale / aspell to en-gb from en-us? > > Thanks > > -- > Michael Austin > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users > -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080601/f6ab8097/attachment.htm From erenoglu at gmail.com Sun Jun 1 04:49:05 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 03:49:05 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: References: <1212283431.4841fa274972f@webapp.securecp.net> Message-ID: More precisely, it's in TASMA --> Peripherals --> Keyboard Layout (icon) , then in the coming window, you choose Layout Tab (default) and choose United Kingdom (gb) from the list and click Add >> button. Emre On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Emre ERENOGLU wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Is Great Britain (gb) layout available in the TASMA Keyboard Layout > settings control tool? > > If so, you can choose it and add to the list of layouts. > > Emre > > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:23 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> hello, >> >> I am having problems trying to change my system locale to use en-gb rather >> than >> en-us. I need to do so in order to have abiword use en-gb as its spell >> checking. >> >> How do I go about switching my system locale / aspell to en-gb from en-us? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> Michael Austin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pardus-users mailing list >> Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr >> http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users >> > > > > -- > Emre -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080601/8ece2488/attachment.htm From tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org Sun Jun 1 14:40:35 2008 From: tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org (tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:40:35 +0100 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb Message-ID: <1212320435.48428ab32f40a@webapp.securecp.net> >More precisely, it's in TASMA --> Peripherals --> Keyboard Layout (icon) , >then in the coming window, you choose Layout Tab (default) and choose United >Kingdom (gb) from the list and click Add >> button. > >Emre I have already done this, but Abiword still uses apell en-us and not en-gb for the spelling. Aspell is still set to use en-us. Aspell lists that en-gb is available, but I do not know how to set it as the aspell default. Also I do not use Kde, so the Kde settings will not affect me as I use Xfce. Abiword defaults to the aspell language for its spell checking, manually changing the language. How can I change aspell to en-gb? Thanks. Michael Austin. From erenoglu at gmail.com Sun Jun 1 16:15:42 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:15:42 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <1212320435.48428ab32f40a@webapp.securecp.net> References: <1212320435.48428ab32f40a@webapp.securecp.net> Message-ID: OK, I see that you're running a non-default Pardus system. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, wrote: > >More precisely, it's in TASMA --> Peripherals --> Keyboard Layout (icon) , > >then in the coming window, you choose Layout Tab (default) and choose > United > >Kingdom (gb) from the list and click Add >> button. > > > >Emre > > I have already done this, but Abiword still uses apell en-us and not en-gb > for > the spelling. Aspell is still set to use en-us. Aspell lists that en-gb > is > available, but I do not know how to set it as the aspell default. Can you change the Abiword setting from the menu? (Tools --> Language). Then you can choose English (GB) as the default for this document. > > Also I do not use Kde, so the Kde settings will not affect me as I use > Xfce. > > Abiword defaults to the aspell language for its spell checking, manually > changing the language. How can I change aspell to en-gb? > Normally, you need to create either /etc/aspell.conf or ~/.aspell.conf (in your $HOME dir). Inside this file, you can put: lang en_GB According to what I've read in the manual output of the command: man aspell Give it a try :) > > Thanks. > > Michael Austin. > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users > -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080601/380ae629/attachment.htm From dfisek at fisek.com.tr Sun Jun 1 17:45:13 2008 From: dfisek at fisek.com.tr (Doruk Fisek) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:45:13 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <1212320435.48428ab32f40a@webapp.securecp.net> References: <1212320435.48428ab32f40a@webapp.securecp.net> Message-ID: <20080601174513.326346f6.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:40:35 +0100, tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org : > >More precisely, it's in TASMA --> Peripherals --> Keyboard Layout > >(icon) , then in the coming window, you choose Layout Tab (default) > >and choose United Kingdom (gb) from the list and click Add >> button. > I have already done this, but Abiword still uses apell en-us and not > en-gb for the spelling. Aspell is still set to use en-us. This only changes keyboard layout. Though if you had had succesfully changed the language settings too, it wouldn't have mattered because Tasma's current language chooser only affects KDE-based software. There's an open bug on this (in Turkish) and its developer hopes to fix it soon : http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 If your only concern is Abiword, try running abiword from console as : LC_ALL=en_GB abiword Btw, if Abiword was a KDE software, you would have the option to choose a different language for that software only from its own menu (Help -> Switch Application Language). Doruk -- FISEK INSTITUTE - http://www.fisek.org.tr From tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org Sun Jun 1 18:10:53 2008 From: tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org (tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:10:53 +0100 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb Message-ID: <1212333053.4842bbfd533fa@webapp.securecp.net> >Hi Michael, > >Is Great Britain (gb) layout available in the TASMA Keyboard Layout settings >control tool? > .If so, you can choose it and add to the list of layouts. > >Emre Hi Emre, I have already changed the keyboard layout to gb layout. My problem relates to aspell and spell checking. The system defaults to English US. English GB is avilable in aspell English, but it is not used by default, English US is. My keyboard is already setup to use English GB on the keyboard. This was already setup during install by Yali. But Yali does only sets the system Aspell to English US. Aspell is the issue as GTK apps use apsell for the spell checking and I need to change it to English GB. Hopefully someone knows how I can change it to English GB Thanks for the help :) Michael Austin. From tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org Sun Jun 1 18:27:49 2008 From: tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org (tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:27:49 +0100 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb Message-ID: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> >This only changes keyboard layout. Though if you had had succesfully >changed the language settings too, it wouldn't have mattered because >Tasma's current language chooser only affects KDE-based software. >There's an open bug on this (in Turkish) and its developer hopes to fix >it soon : > >http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 > >If your only concern is Abiword, try running abiword from console as :> > >LC_ALL=en_GB abiword > >Btw, if Abiword was a KDE software, you would have the option to choose >a different language for that software only from its own menu (Help -> >Switch Application Language). > > Doruk Hey Doruk, great that command works? So the bug report, does that mean that hopefully tasma will also change the systems language settings including the system locale and aspell etc? Not just kde? Will tasma allow me to change the aspell language so that non-kde applications are localised as well? So I would be able to have all gtk apps for example to use en-gb rather than english-us? Is there a way I can change it system wide by hand for the time being until 2008 comes out and the feature is added to tasma? Thanks Michael Austin. From dfisek at fisek.com.tr Sun Jun 1 18:56:02 2008 From: dfisek at fisek.com.tr (Doruk Fisek) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:56:02 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> References: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> Message-ID: <20080601185602.f7a7b416.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:27:49 +0100, tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org : > So the bug report, does that mean that hopefully tasma will also > change the systems language settings including the system locale and > aspell etc? Not just kde? Will tasma allow me to change the aspell > language so that non-kde applications are localised as well? So I > would be able to have all gtk apps for example to use en-gb rather > than english-us? Let me translate what has been going on in that bug report to-date : When a user changes its language in Tasma, *all* (gtk/kde alike) applications (s)he runs will be affected. That's what Tasma's developer (Pinar Yanardag) said she'd do in the bug report. I also proposed a second module, accessible by the system administrator (wheel group), that can change the system language/keyboard; which would affect Mudur (system boot-up), KDM (login screen) and the default language/keyboard of a new user. I'm not sure she (the developer) accepted the proposal of the second module. If she's reading this mailing list, I believe she'll clarify and elaborate more on the matter if needed. > Is there a way I can change it system wide by hand for the time being > until 2008 comes out and the feature is added to tasma? There most certainly is a way but I'm not sure which configuration files you should change in order to do a complete switch. Maybe someone else in the mailing list can help you on that matter. Doruk -- FISEK INSTITUTE - http://www.fisek.org.tr From erenoglu at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 00:45:01 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:45:01 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <20080601185602.f7a7b416.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> References: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> <20080601185602.f7a7b416.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> Message-ID: Hi Michael, did you try the .aspell.conf setting that I adviced? Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080601/4e432cee/attachment.htm From tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org Sun Jun 1 23:59:03 2008 From: tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org (Michael Austin) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:59:03 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: References: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> <20080601185602.f7a7b416.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> Message-ID: <20080601235903.6d03f1d7.tuxedup@tuxedup.greenisp.org> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:45:01 +0200 "Emre ERENOGLU" wrote: > Hi Michael, did you try the .aspell.conf setting that I adviced? > > Emre > Hello Emre, Yeah I have tried what you suggested, but it did now seem to work. I created the file twice both in home and in etc. But it does not seem to work. Starting abiword still results in it using en-us for spell checking and not en-gb. Any other suggestions? Would you be able to test this your self to make it is not just an error on my part? Any other suggestions? Thanks -- Michael Austin From erenoglu at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 02:02:28 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:02:28 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] change system locale to en-gb In-Reply-To: <20080601235903.6d03f1d7.tuxedup@tuxedup.greenisp.org> References: <1212334069.4842bff5344fa@webapp.securecp.net> <20080601185602.f7a7b416.dfisek@fisek.com.tr> <20080601235903.6d03f1d7.tuxedup@tuxedup.greenisp.org> Message-ID: Well, I don't have any XFCE Pardus, but the Abiword in my installation even doesn't do Turkish spell check :) (nor it does any other language). So I guess there's some problem, but no good error message is given. Only "Dictionary cannot be loaded" in Turkish. This can be specific to my system though. Emre On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Michael Austin < tuxedup at tuxedup.greenisp.org> wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:45:01 +0200 > "Emre ERENOGLU" wrote: > > > Hi Michael, did you try the .aspell.conf setting that I adviced? > > > > Emre > > > > Hello Emre, > > Yeah I have tried what you suggested, but it did now seem to work. I > created the file twice both in home and in etc. But it does not seem to > work. Starting abiword still results in it using en-us for spell checking > and not en-gb. > > Any other suggestions? Would you be able to test this your self to make it > is not just an error on my part? > > Any other suggestions? > > Thanks > -- > Michael Austin > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users > -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080606/ce55658d/attachment.htm From mvillarino at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 14:24:52 2008 From: mvillarino at gmail.com (mvillarino) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:24:52 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions Message-ID: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> Good day, Well, I've got two questions: First, is it possible to have desktop translated to galician language? (note: I'm member of the KDE's gl language team) Second: My system has to hdd, now everything is into hda, and I would love to have /home on hbd, how do I migrate it? One additional remark: I had to try to install two times, first one failed on partitioning, don't know exactly if it was after or on it. It raised a dialog saying that an exception was thrown (something concerning mouse pointer). Afterwards, mouse could be moved, but the arrows for prev. and next install stages were not active. All the other buttons were working. Thanks in advance, & best regards, MV From turkay.eren at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 14:34:47 2008 From: turkay.eren at gmail.com (Eren =?iso-8859-1?q?T=FCrkay?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:34:47 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200806101434.47679.turkay.eren@gmail.com> On 10 Jun 2008 Tue 14:24:52 mvillarino wrote: > Good day, Hello > Well, I've got two questions: > > First, is it possible to have desktop translated to galician language? > (note: I'm member of the KDE's gl language team) Of course, it's possible. You can translate Pardus' tools into your language and it will be really appreciated :) But please check the language page to get information about translating. "First priority" is important. http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/translation/starting-translation.html > Second: My system has to hdd, now everything is into hda, and I would > love to have /home on hbd, how do I migrate it? I don't understand the point. Could you explain your harddisk structure more? If you want to use your old /home directory inside Pardus, you can select /home to be mounted with associated hdd partition while installing Pardus. Be careful that you don't format your /home after selected it because YALI select "format this partition" option by default, just unselect it. > One additional remark: I had to try to install two times, first one > failed on partitioning, don't know exactly if it was after or on it. > It raised a dialog saying that an exception was thrown (something > concerning mouse pointer). Afterwards, mouse could be moved, but the > arrows for prev. and next install stages were not active. All the > other buttons were working. Which version are you trying to install? > Thanks in advance, & best regards, > MV Regards, Eren From mvillarino at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 15:58:27 2008 From: mvillarino at gmail.com (mvillarino) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:58:27 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <200806101434.47679.turkay.eren@gmail.com> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <200806101434.47679.turkay.eren@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> > http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/translation/starting-translation.html Added at my TODO list ;-) > I don't understand the point. Could you explain your harddisk structure > more? > If you want to use your old /home directory inside Pardus, you can > select /home to be mounted with associated hdd partition while installing > Pardus. Currently it's all into hda. I do not want to install system again. Data into hdb have been screwed a little by a "too early development version of debian", so I don't mind mkext2fs it. Anyway, it already contains broken inodes. I want /home on hdb ext3, / on hda ext3. Nevermind, I'll format hdb, copy /home files to an usb memory stick and mount /home on hdb, then copy backuped files there. > Which version are you trying to install? I think it's 2007.3. From g.duale at otasc.org Tue Jun 10 16:04:00 2008 From: g.duale at otasc.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillaume_Dual=E9?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:04:00 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <200806101434.47679.turkay.eren@gmail.com> <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <484E7BC0.1050809@otasc.org> mvillarino wrote: >> http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/translation/starting-translation.html > > Added at my TODO list ;-) > >> I don't understand the point. Could you explain your harddisk structure >> more? >> If you want to use your old /home directory inside Pardus, you can >> select /home to be mounted with associated hdd partition while installing >> Pardus. > Currently it's all into hda. I do not want to install system again. > Data into hdb have been screwed a little by a "too early development > version of debian", so I don't mind mkext2fs it. Anyway, it already > contains broken inodes. > I want /home on hdb ext3, / on hda ext3. > Nevermind, I'll format hdb, copy /home files to an usb memory stick > and mount /home on hdb, then copy backuped files there. Hi, you can do it without a usb-key :-) Do in root, - mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (This operation ERASE YOUR DATA !) - mkdir /mnt/hdb1 - mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 - rsync -av ~ /mnt/hdb1 - modify your /etc/fstab file to point to /dev/hdb1 for your /home partition. - sync; umount /mnt/hdb1 - reboot I hope, I forgotten nothing :-) See you, Guillaume. > >> Which version are you trying to install? > I think it's 2007.3. > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users From info at gnodde.com Tue Jun 10 15:59:28 2008 From: info at gnodde.com (Jan Gnodde) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:59:28 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <484E7BC0.1050809@otasc.org> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> <484E7BC0.1050809@otasc.org> Message-ID: <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> Op Tuesday 10 June 2008 16:04:00 schreef Guillaume Dual?: > you can do it without a usb-key :-) > Do in root, > - mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (This operation ERASE YOUR DATA !) > - mkdir /mnt/hdb1 > - mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 > - rsync -av ~ /mnt/hdb1 > - modify your /etc/fstab file to point to /dev/hdb1 for your /home > partition. > - sync; umount /mnt/hdb1 > - reboot > > I hope, I forgotten nothing :-) Erasing the old home-dir on hda? Jan. From erenoglu at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 17:37:45 2008 From: erenoglu at gmail.com (Emre ERENOGLU) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:37:45 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> <484E7BC0.1050809@otasc.org> <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> Message-ID: That shall remain there as a backup :) Emre On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Jan Gnodde wrote: > Op Tuesday 10 June 2008 16:04:00 schreef Guillaume Dual?: > > you can do it without a usb-key :-) > > Do in root, > > - mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (This operation ERASE YOUR DATA !) > > - mkdir /mnt/hdb1 > > - mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 > > - rsync -av ~ /mnt/hdb1 > > - modify your /etc/fstab file to point to /dev/hdb1 for your /home > > partition. > > - sync; umount /mnt/hdb1 > > - reboot > > > > I hope, I forgotten nothing :-) > > Erasing the old home-dir on hda? > > Jan. > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users > -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080610/cfb6df88/attachment.htm From g.duale at otasc.org Tue Jun 10 18:47:19 2008 From: g.duale at otasc.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillaume_Dual=E9?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:47:19 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <48d44b6a0806100558u30c5f594v902bdf63245b4f58@mail.gmail.com> <484E7BC0.1050809@otasc.org> <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> Message-ID: <484EA207.2010505@otasc.org> Hi, it depends, is your /dev/hda partitioned in more than one partition ? Do in root: fdisk -l and send here the result please. If you have only /dev/hda1 (and NOT /dev/hda2), it probably (exception of swap partition) means, your / and /home are on the same partition, so the previous method to move your home on /dev/hdb1 is not complete. In fact, if you mount via the file "/etc/fstab", the partition "/dev/hdb1" on /home, your previous file on /home (from hda1) will be hidden by the file system. So, to do it, I advice to NO logon on X11 and go back to TTY1 with CTRL+ALT+F1, then log in root, and type: - mv /home /home_BACKUP - mkdir /home - The previous procedure (mkfs, ...) See you, Guillaume. --- Jan Gnodde wrote: > Op Tuesday 10 June 2008 16:04:00 schreef Guillaume Dual?: >> you can do it without a usb-key :-) >> Do in root, >> - mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 (This operation ERASE YOUR DATA !) >> - mkdir /mnt/hdb1 >> - mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 >> - rsync -av ~ /mnt/hdb1 >> - modify your /etc/fstab file to point to /dev/hdb1 for your /home >> partition. >> - sync; umount /mnt/hdb1 >> - reboot >> >> I hope, I forgotten nothing :-) > > Erasing the old home-dir on hda? > > Jan. > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users From mvillarino at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 23:33:38 2008 From: mvillarino at gmail.com (mvillarino) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:33:38 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] Newcomer questions In-Reply-To: <484EA207.2010505@otasc.org> References: <48d44b6a0806100424n3fc2245fk3de1276d52a1072f@mail.gmail.com> <200806101559.28620.info@gnodde.com> <484EA207.2010505@otasc.org> Message-ID: <200806102233.38530.mvillarino@gmail.com> O Martes 10 Xu?o 2008 17:47, Guillaume Dual? escribiu: > Hi, > it depends, > is your /dev/hda partitioned in more than one partition ? Thanks all of you for your interest. hda has no partitions (other than swap), and hdb has already been formatted (btw, with option -c, to see if there where any bad sector). I do not know the result, it's already running. Remainder operation will be done tomorrow. > In fact, if you mount via the file "/etc/fstab", the partition > "/dev/hdb1" on /home, your previous file on /home (from hda1) will be > hidden by the file system. > So, to do it, I advice to NO logon on X11 and go back to TTY1 with > CTRL+ALT+F1, then log in root, and type: For me, It's more of a problem to go to console than to lose one or two hd's MiB... Thanks anyway. Good people in this community, for sure! -- Best regards, MV From etasci at fisek.com.tr Thu Jun 12 18:06:14 2008 From: etasci at fisek.com.tr (Emre Sururi) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:06:14 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] A very strange phenomenon about the network printer behaviour (Revisited) In-Reply-To: <4811C4C9.5020506@fisek.com.tr> References: <4811C4C9.5020506@fisek.com.tr> Message-ID: <48513B66.1040106@fisek.com.tr> Hi All, I think I found a culprit for this strange behaviour. I realized that one of the status reports was "Printing: Printer does not support IPP/1.1, trying IPP/1.0..." and according to an Ubuntu support page (http://www.cse.ust.hk/~lkmpoon/linux/ubuntu-hkust.html), the reason was the disabled OpenSSH and enabled gnutls. To quote from that source: ------------------------------------------------------------ # Open the rules file, which sets the options, in the package. Assuming the current version of CUPS is 1.1.23: #cd cupsys-1.1.23 #vi debian/rules # Change the options to enable openssl and disable gnutls. Change --disable-openssl to --enable-openssl and --enable-gnutls to --disable-gnutls. # Change the change log file (debian/changelog) and add a new version yourself. The new version (e.g. 1.1.23-10ubuntu4-1) should be different from the original one (e.g. 1.1.23-10ubuntu4). # Build the package with this command: #dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b ------------------------------------------------------------ Shall I try to manually compile the CUPS by myself or is there a simple/practical way to do it? A similar question goes with Amarok - I'd like to have the MySQL support enabled if it is possible.. By the way, my heart goes with the developers on these tensioned days with regard to Pardus 2008... Go Pardus Go! 8) Emre Sururi wrote On 04/25/2008 01:47 PM: > We are using a network printer (NRG MP C 2500 PS) in our office and its > properties are as follows: > > Printer Model: NRG MP C2500 PS > Location: 3mE Building > Comment: 3mE-8D-0-2 Materiaalkunde printer (colour) > Network Name: https://srv525.tudelft.net/printers/3mE-8D-0-2/.printer > Documents: 0 > Speed: 25 PPM (Number of Pages Per Minute) > Color: Supported > Print on Both Sides: Supported > Max Resolution: 600 DPI (Dots Per Inch) > > As you can see, we have to connect via https backend and for this I made > a symlink from the ipp to https. > > Now, the problem is that, it takes 6.5 minutes for the printer to print > what I sent. The problem isn't related to Pardus, I know this because I > was having the same issue also with Fedora and again with CUPS. Checked > this on the internet but came with nothing. I'm wondering if anyone is > familiar with this delay... > > > Keywords: Network printer CUPS delay 6 minutes 30 seconds 6.5 6.30 wait From caglar at pardus.org.tr Thu Jun 12 18:21:14 2008 From: caglar at pardus.org.tr (=?utf-8?q?S=2E=C3=87a=C4=9Flar?= Onur) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:21:14 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] A very strange phenomenon about the network printer behaviour (Revisited) In-Reply-To: <48513B66.1040106@fisek.com.tr> References: <4811C4C9.5020506@fisek.com.tr> <48513B66.1040106@fisek.com.tr> Message-ID: <200806121821.17755.caglar@pardus.org.tr> Hi Emre; 12 Haz 2008 Per tarihinde, Emre Sururi ??unlar?? yazm????t??: > I think I found a culprit for this strange behaviour. I realized that > one of the status reports was "Printing: Printer does not support > IPP/1.1, trying IPP/1.0..." and according to an Ubuntu support page > (http://www.cse.ust.hk/~lkmpoon/linux/ubuntu-hkust.html), the reason was > the disabled OpenSSH and enabled gnutls. To quote from that source: > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > # Open the rules file, which sets the options, in the package. Assuming > the current version of CUPS is 1.1.23: > > #cd cupsys-1.1.23 > #vi debian/rules > > # Change the options to enable openssl and disable gnutls. Change > --disable-openssl to --enable-openssl and --enable-gnutls to > --disable-gnutls. > # Change the change log file (debian/changelog) and add a new version > yourself. The new version (e.g. 1.1.23-10ubuntu4-1) should be different > from the original one (e.g. 1.1.23-10ubuntu4). > # Build the package with this command: > > #dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shall I try to manually compile the CUPS by myself or is there a > simple/practical way to do it? A similar question goes with Amarok - I'd > like to have the MySQL support enabled if it is possible.. There is. First install subversion package and do the following; svn co -N https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2007/applications/printing cd printing/ svn up cups cd cups/ vi actions.py remove following lines from it [...] --enable-ssl \ --enable-gnutls \ [...] sudo pisi build pspec.xml -d and install new package with sudo pisi it cups-*.pisi and same for amarok svn co -N https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2007/desktop/kde/ cd kde svn up amarok/ ... > By the way, my heart goes with the developers on these tensioned days > with regard to Pardus 2008... Go Pardus Go! 8) Cheers -- S.??a??lar Onur http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~caglar/ Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates and an Apache in house! -------------- sonraki b?l?m -------------- Yaz??? olmayan bir eklenti temizlendi... ???sim: kullan???lam???yor T???r: application/pgp-signature Boyut: 197 bayt Tan???m: This is a digitally signed message part. Url: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080612/7b6e4a3a/attachment.pgp From etasci at fisek.com.tr Thu Jun 12 21:11:38 2008 From: etasci at fisek.com.tr (Emre Sururi) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:11:38 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] A very strange phenomenon about the network printer behaviour (Revisited) In-Reply-To: <200806121821.17755.caglar@pardus.org.tr> References: <4811C4C9.5020506@fisek.com.tr> <48513B66.1040106@fisek.com.tr> <200806121821.17755.caglar@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <485166DA.8070703@fisek.com.tr> S.?ag(lar Onur wrote On 06/12/2008 05:21 PM: > There is. > Hi Caglar, You've just made my day, once a ninja, always a ninja. 8) (btw, haven't had the opportunity to try the printer yet but Amarok is well and sound and I finally got the idea of how things work as in feeding a man with a fish against teaching him how to catch fish 8) Cheerio! EST From ekin at pardus.org.tr Mon Jun 16 16:04:39 2008 From: ekin at pardus.org.tr (Ekin =?utf-8?q?Mero=C4=9Flu?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:04:39 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Update : Pardus 2008 RC2 Release Message-ID: <200806161604.39194.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Hi; As you may have known, we've planned to release Pardus 2008 RC2 today. But some of the new features we'd like to introduce - mainly the user privilidge GUI - didn't come out as stable as we'd like. We also have a few bugs here and there we'd like to iron out till the RC2 release... So, in favour of a more roboust release, we postponed the RC2 release for two days - Pardus 2008 RC2 will be released at 18 June 2008. We apologize for any inconvenience.. -- Happy Hacking; Ekin Meroglu ... did i listen to pop music because i was miserable, or was i miserable because i listened to pop music?... - rob [nick hornby / hi fi] From tuxedup at gmx.co.uk Mon Jun 16 16:21:51 2008 From: tuxedup at gmx.co.uk (Michael Austin) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:21:51 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] pardus jabber server Message-ID: <20080616132151.202110@gmx.com> Hello / Selam / Merhaba, Is the pardus jabber server setup for file transfer?? Is it is, what are the settings I need to use in Kopete? Also are any gateways enabled in the jabber server?? Msn etc? thnaks -------------- Michael?Austin? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Msn etc? > > > thnaks > > > -------------- > Michael Austin < tuxedup at gmx.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users > -- Emre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-users/attachments/20080618/d9176ca3/attachment.htm From ekin at pardus.org.tr Fri Jun 27 16:20:11 2008 From: ekin at pardus.org.tr (Ekin =?utf-8?q?Mero=C4=9Flu?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:20:11 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Pardus 2008 Final Release Message-ID: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Hi; Pardus 2008 Final Release is ready for download in our ftp servers and mirrors. For download info, please visit : http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/download.html Many thanks to all our developer and users who supported this release - We hope you'll have as much fun using it as we've had developing. Please note that to eliminate potential problems, burn the CDs in DAO mode, 16x speed. In case of doubt, the check CD step of our installer -YALI- can check if the installation media is in a good condition. -- Happy Hacking; Ekin Meroglu ... did i listen to pop music because i was miserable, or was i miserable because i listened to pop music?... - rob [nick hornby / hi fi] From ekin at pardus.org.tr Fri Jun 27 16:25:16 2008 From: ekin at pardus.org.tr (Ekin =?utf-8?q?Mero=C4=9Flu?=) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:25:16 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Pardus 2008 Release Notes In-Reply-To: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> References: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200806271625.16279.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Pardus 2008 release notes 1. Welcome to Pardus 2008 Welcome to Pardus version 2008, another great Pardus release from Pardus developers, translators, artists and documentation writers. This is the first release of Pardus 2008 branch. We kindly invite you to visit http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng for more information. 1.1 Feedback You can use http://bugs.pardus.org.tr, aka Pardus bug tracking system to send a bug, bug fix or any suggestion related to Pardus. We would like to thank our users and developers with their bug reports, related fixes, new package or feature suggestions for this release. 2. Basic features This section describes the Pardus 2008 features. 2.1 User authorization management The privileges of all users may be arranged and the password inquiry behavior may easily be customized by using the advanced user authorization system of Pardus 2008. The new and improved User Manager, on the other hand, makes authorization management very easy and secure. The authorization system and privilege management interfaces, which have been developed by Pardus developers, make use of Pulaski - dbus infrastructure and work in conjunction with COMAR to provide system-wide and hassle-free authorization control infrastructure. 2.2 Easy to use Network Manager Network manager supports auto-detection of your wireless profiles and automatically switches to the detected profile. The connection information is viewable at the system tray, which is updated continuously and informs user via a popup which makes network manager more intuitive and user friendly. Ethernet, wireless and modem connections, together with all customized configuration, may be saved as profiles for different locations for easy connectivity. 2.3 Improved package management system The package manager PiSi (Packages installed Successfully, as intended), which downloads and installs new packages in only a few clicks, have been improved and get faster in performance. The most recent versions of applications that you use are updated by downloading only the changed parts, which make download times much shorter. Using the newly added support for history management in PiSi and new History Manager you may go back to the previous versions of packages, may have snapshots of your current state, and go back and forth between these snapshots. 2.4 YALI The installer program YALI (Yet Another Linux Installer), first asks the questions necessary, then starts with installation, which takes around 30 minutes. Customization of user information, automatic login, timezone, system keyboard and language settings are done easily. It is possible to change all these configuration setting afterward, using configuration manager TASMA, as usual. In addition, YALI includes the new and improved partitioning interface , which makes managing hard disks a charm: It is possible to easily customize the installation and boot system. The fully rewritten automatic resizing and installation choices makes installation problem-free and fast. 2.5 Kaptan Desktop The welcoming application for new users, Kaptan Desktop, has been completely rewritten. Kaptan is a single-point solution for keyboard/mouse, desktop, network and package management settings, and make suggestions for better system configuration. 2.6 Display Manager One of the new features of Pardus 2008 is the Display Manager, which provides a graphical interface for graphics card and monitor configuration. Display Manager makes advanced configuration of resolution, color-depth, mutlihead, and such, and makes use of the fully rewritten display management infrastructure (zorg). 2.7 Automatic hardware detection One of the strong points of Pardus, fully automatic hardware detection, has become better in Pardus 2008. The printers attached to the systems are automatically detected and configured in Pardus 2008. Widely used peripheral devices such as wireless network devices, webcams, printers, scanners and all-in-ones are supported much better in Pardus 2008 for a problem-free operation. 2.8 Pardus Technologies The fundamental technologies of Pardus, namely COMAR and Mudur, have been rewritten to make use of dbus infrastructure. Pardus 2008 is the first Pardus release that makes use of these technologies. New COMAR provides a complete configuration management service, thanks to its new design fully integrated with dbus and authorization infrastructure. 2.9 Updated applications In addition to the new features of Pardus technologies, Pardus 2008 includes numerous version upgrades: - Updated KDE 3.5.9 Desktop Environment, - The latest Linux kernel (2.6.25.9) provides much improved hardware support, together with a stable and reliable system, - Important infrastructure improvements including gcc 4.3.1, glibc 2.8, Python 2.5, Java 6 , - The most recent, fastest and most capable internet browser Mozilla Firefox 3.0, - OpenOffice.org 2.4.1 which operates on almost all office document formats, - Hundreds of free software applications, with less bugs and updated to the most recent versions... 3. Installation requirements You can run Pardus 2008 on an average hardware. We suggest to use at least 512 MB RAM (memory) and 1200 MHz processor to get an effective performance. Minimum and recommended hardware requirements for Pardus 2008 are mentioned below: * 256 MB memory (512 MB recommended) * 800 MHz Intel or AMD processor (1200 MHz recommended) * At least 4 GB of free hard disk space (10 GB recommended) From dbalozzi at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 03:36:06 2008 From: dbalozzi at gmail.com (dario balozzi) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:36:06 -0300 Subject: [Pardus-users] Pardus 2008 Final Release In-Reply-To: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> References: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <1a2189340806271736v464d684dwc98dd046ceb6a960@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Ekin Mero?lu wrote: > Hi; > > Pardus 2008 Final Release is ready for download in our ftp servers and > mirrors. For download info, please visit : > > http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/download.html > thank you very much and congratulations! Go Pardus! From g.duale at otasc.org Sat Jun 28 18:36:07 2008 From: g.duale at otasc.org (=?ISO-8859-9?Q?Guillaume_Dual=E9?=) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:36:07 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-users] Pardus 2008 Final Release In-Reply-To: <1a2189340806271736v464d684dwc98dd046ceb6a960@mail.gmail.com> References: <200806271620.11269.ekin@pardus.org.tr> <1a2189340806271736v464d684dwc98dd046ceb6a960@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48665A67.1010506@otasc.org> Hi, congratulations again :) A French mirror is available here: http://pardus.otasc.org/installcd/2008/ Thanks, Guillaume. --- dario balozzi a ?crit : > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Ekin Mero?lu wrote: >> Hi; >> >> Pardus 2008 Final Release is ready for download in our ftp servers and >> mirrors. For download info, please visit : >> >> http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/download.html >> > > thank you very much > > and congratulations! > > Go Pardus! > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-users mailing list > Pardus-users at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-users